Please respond to the following prompts in complete sentences. Use quotes when stipulated.
1. What is the context of Chapter 2? What is happening? Where is it happening?
2. Why is the following quote so loaded? What is its tone? "Being unable to conquer Troy through the skills of war in nine years of fighting, the Greek leaders decide to follow Minerva's instruction and build a horse of mountainous bulk from the wood of the fir tree" (123).
3. Where is Tenedos located?
4. Who is Sinon? Paraphrase his story as to why he was left behind.
5. How was Minerva insulted? Use a quote as support. (Must be incorporated).
6. Why do the Greeks allegedly sail for Mycenae? Use a quote as support. (Must be incorporated).
7. What was Laocoon's sin? Use a quote as support. (Must be incorporated).
8. How does Apollo's gift to Cassandra speak to the fate of Troy?
9. Bottom line, did the Greeks win an honorable victory? Why or why not?
10. How is King Priam depicted in this selection. Use a quote as support.
Due: Tuesday, 11.13 - before class
1. What is the context of Chapter 2? What is happening? Where is it happening?
2. Why is the following quote so loaded? What is its tone? "Being unable to conquer Troy through the skills of war in nine years of fighting, the Greek leaders decide to follow Minerva's instruction and build a horse of mountainous bulk from the wood of the fir tree" (123).
3. Where is Tenedos located?
4. Who is Sinon? Paraphrase his story as to why he was left behind.
5. How was Minerva insulted? Use a quote as support. (Must be incorporated).
6. Why do the Greeks allegedly sail for Mycenae? Use a quote as support. (Must be incorporated).
7. What was Laocoon's sin? Use a quote as support. (Must be incorporated).
8. How does Apollo's gift to Cassandra speak to the fate of Troy?
9. Bottom line, did the Greeks win an honorable victory? Why or why not?
10. How is King Priam depicted in this selection. Use a quote as support.
Due: Tuesday, 11.13 - before class
1. In Chapter 2, Aeneas is telling Queen Dido of Carthage the story of the calamity of Troy. He lists the events leading up to the creation of the Trojan horse and the Trojans' tragic misunderstanding of its purpose.
ReplyDelete2. The quote sounds so loaded because it foreshadows the subsequent downfall of Troy. It's tone is reluctant and one is able to visualize the ultimate consequences of the city. After so many years of resistance against the persistent attacks of their troops against Troy, the Greeks decide to construct the Trojan Horse, which becomes the nemesis of Troy.
3. Tenedos is an island located near Troy. The Greek forces concealed their boats on its shores, and convinced the Trojans that they had left.
4. Sinon is a Greek prisoner of Troy. He tells the Trojans about the treacherous behaviour of the Greeks. After constructing the Trojan horse, the Greeks received an omen from Apollo stating that only the blood of a warrior's sacrifice would allow them to return home, and Sinon was doomed to be the one to be slaughtered. With terror in mind, he flees from camp and waits until the Greek troops left the Trojan shores and consequently gets left behind. However, his true duty was to open the Trojan Horse so that the warriors could open the gates.
5. Minerva was insulted because the Greeks "stole the statue" of Minerva "from its shrine" in Troy (125). This was done on behalf of the captured Trojan prophet, who slyly foretells the Trojans that it would lead to their ultimate victory.
6. The Greeks allegedly sale for Mycenae to make the Trojans think they hat they are safe, when in fact they are in grave danger. They leave a wooden horse on the shore of Troy and disguise it as a divine gift. In fact, "inside the horse's cavernous belly, the devious Greeks secretly hide a group of armed warriors" so that they can ravage the city with utmost advantage (124).
7. Laocoon's commits a sin by hurling "his spear into the sacred body of the" Trojan Horse (126). This triggers two of Minerva's serpents murder Laocoon and his two sons. The Trojans take this as an omen informing that the Trojan Horse is sacred and should be kept within the gates of Troy.
8. Cassandra prophesies that doom will fall upon Troy. However, no one believes her because Apollo's gift also made no one believe her prophecies. With this ironic situation, Troy sadly falls.
9. I would argue the Greeks did not win an honorable victory due to unfair battle tactics. If they had conquered the Trojans through properly dictated army-to-army war, they would be respected. However, giving the Trojans no warning of their attack only makes me consider them only as brutal colonizers.
10. King Priam is depicted as an understanding king. When Sinon tells the Trojans his pitiful story, "Priam commands that his bonds be removed" (125) and "tells him 'From this time forth, you are one of us.'" (125). He is almost too kind, since this mistake of accepting Sinon leads to the downfall of Troy.
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1) Basically, what happened in chapter 2 was, Aeneas described what had happened in Troy. He describes the events that lead up to the Trojan horse and how that lead up to the destruction of Troy.
2) For years, they have been stopped every attack upon the city, then the Greeks decide to take the advice of a goddess, and then construct the Trojan Horse, which becomes the enemy of Troy. The reason for this quote being so loaded is because it indicates the future of Troy. As for the tone, it feels like they didn’t mean that to happen, and you are able to see the risk of the city’s future.
3) Today, Tenedos, also known as Bozcaada, is an island of Turkey located in the northern Aegean. This is where the Greek forces hid their boats on its shores, which later convinced the Trojans that they have left.
4) Sinon was a Greek prisoner in the Trojan war. After being found by the Trojans, he tells them about their treacherous behavior. After the Greeks construct the Trojan horse, Apollo gives a sign stating that in order for the plan to work, they must sacrifice a warriors blood. The person would then be Sinon, he then realizes this and flees the camp, and does not return till the ships had left. He is therefore left behind, but his true duty was to make sure that the Trojans take the horse, and him, so he would be able to open the gates for the warriors to attack.
5) The prophet tricked the Greeks that, in order to win they would have to "remove from Troy the statue of Minerva" (125). and once they brought the statue to their ship, the statue's eyes "flashed with flames" (125). This became an insult to Minerva by taking the statue from it's rightful place, the shrine in Troy.
6) The greeks allegedly sail to Mycenae in order make the Trojans think that they have nothing to fear, which gives them comfort, but they were wrong. The leave a wooden horse behind, which is said to be a sacrifice, when really deep "inside the horses cavernous belly, the devious Greeks secretly hide" (124). in order to get past the gates of Troy.
7) A sin committed by Laocoon is shown when he casts his spear into the Trojan horse and "angers Minerva" (126). Two serpents from Minerva then come to murder Laocoon and his two sons for his action. This is then shown as a sign that the horse is sacred, so they bring into Troy.
8) Apollo gives Cassandra the ability to predict the fall of Troy. The problem is, is that Apollo also made sure that there would be a catch to the gift, which was that nobody shall believe her.
9) In my perspective, an honorable victory is given when they solve all situations by themselves, using their own ideas and their own sources in order to win. This, the Greeks DID NOT do, because they were favored by some of the gods, and so the gods would assist them, by giving them ideas or causing deaths to certain people. If the Greeks did not take their advice, they might not have won, but if they won, they would have won with honor.
10) A depiction of King Priam is seen as a very understanding but also a pitiful and gullible king. The reason for him being gullible is because once he sees Sinon and hears his story, he says “From this time forth, you are one of us” (125). So basically, when he sees a slave from Greece, he will think that they are good people. Little did he know that Sinon, the one Priam had freed, was the one who opened the gates of Troy.
1.In Chapter 1, Aeneas talks to Dido about the Trojan horse and the unfortunate events that happened which led to the fall of Troy.
ReplyDelete2.The quote is so loaded because the narrator wants to convey the point of the Trojan horse being a valuable improvement on invasion and conquering. The tone is optimistic because throughout the nine years of war and Minerva's teachings, they were able to come up with the idea of the Trojan horse.
3.Tenedos is an island located near Troy which the Greeks used to hide their boats in order to trick the Trojans that the war has ended. Now, it is an island that is part of Turkey in the northern Aegean Sea.
4.Sinon is a Greek prisoner who came to Troy to trick them. He told the story of how he was going to get killed by the Greeks. Then he told how he eventually escaped and that that was how he was left behind.
5.Minerva was insulted because the Greeks took Minerva's statue and formed it into the Trojan horse. Therefore, 'from that day on, Minerva ceased to favor the Greeks, and their strength was broken'(125).
6.The Greeks allegedly sailed to Mycenae to make the Trojans think that they had left, 'but in fact, their ships are hidden upon the barren shore of Tenedos' (124).
7.'Laocoon has been punished for crime…he hurled his spear into the sacred body of the horse and angered Minerva'(126). and his two children were killed by the two snakes.
8.Cassandra forecasted that the Trojan horse was bad, but no one believed in her.
9.I do not think the Greeks won an honorable victory because they did not work hard for it since it was not a man-to-man kind of fighting. The Greeks were clever in a way that they made the Trojan horse, but it was tricking the Trojans at the same time.
10.King Priam accepts things easily such as believing into the story of Sinon that the Trojans "tells him, 'From this time forth, you are one of us'"(125).
1. In this chapter, it mainly focuses on what happened before. Aeneas tells Queen Dildo how his own empire, Troy was defeated by the Greeks. It includes stories of Minerva’s deadly gift and also the creation and usage of the Trojan horse
ReplyDelete2.Since the story is so complex but nothing important, they need to simplify it and make an overview. There were no major changes in those years, so it is foreshadowing that the Greeks will eventually fall soon. You can guess this, because after this long story that is summarized and didn’t have any major changes, it has a key event that turns the story around.
3.In present day, it is a island located in Turkey. Back then it was near the Trojan empire.
4.Sinon is the a Greek prisoner who was caught by the Trojans. The Trojans forced the Sinon to to tell about the greeks and Sinon was mainly talking about how bad he was treated and how he was going to get killed (which he didn’t) by the Greeks. And he was left behind from the Greeks.
5. He was insulted because the Greeks “stole a statue”(125) and formed it into a Trojan horse. It was brought into a ship and its eyes were “flashed with flames”(125). It was an insult because it was moved from its right place, the shrine of Troy
6.The Greeks allegedly sailed to Mycenae to make the Trojans think that they had left, “but in fact, their ships are hidden upon the barren shore of Tenedos” (124).
7. The sin was done by Laocoon, it is shown when he casts his spear into the Trojan horse and "angers Minerva" (126). Two serpents from Minerva then come to murder Laocoon and his two sons for his action. This is then shown as a sign that the horse is sacred, so they bring into Troy.
8.Cassandra prophesies that the doom will fall upon Troy. However, no one believes in Cassandra because, Apollo's gift also made no one believe her prophecies. Within this situation, Troy eventually fell as an empire, as it was expected.
9. From my perspective this was not an honorable victory. This was truly unfair because they didn’t use what they had. All the ideas, sources, etc were not all committed or thought by the Greeks. The gods assisted them in many ways such as killing or causing death to certain people or giving them their own ideas (which were successful). Therefore it is a dishonorable but still mixed because you are supposed to use any solution to win.
10.King Priam accepts things easily such as believing into the story of Sinon that the Trojans "tells him, 'From this time forth, you are one of us'"(125). Also he was an understanding person but also cares about people too much that lead to the downfall of Troy
1. In chapter 2, Aeneas talks to the Queen of Carthage, Dido, about the events of what has happened.
ReplyDelete2. It is because it foreshadows the downfall of Troy and it is also noted that, that was how it was done.
3. Tenedos is an island of Turkey in the northern part of the Aegean Sea.
4. Sinon is a Greek prisoner of Troy, He was left behind because he ran away from his duty as a soldier to sacrifice himself.
5. She was insulted by the Greeks because they stole “stole the statue” (125) of the Goddess Minerva from the shrine.
6.They allegedly sailed for Mycenae to give the Trojans a false sense of security for the mean time when they are all actually are in the wooden “horse’s cavernous belly” (124) which is disguised as a gift.
7. Laocoon “hurled his spear into the sacred body of the horse” (126) which is seen as a sin committed.
8. Apollo’s angry gift to her was giving her the power to predict the future, but that no one wouuld ever believe her. Her prediction about Troy falling actually happens.
9. No, I don’t think so. I think it’s a great cunning strategy. But it doesn’t seem fair. Well, no war is far anyways.
10. He is depicted as an understanding, kind king. When Sinon tells his sad story, Priam commanded that Sinon’s “bonds been removed” and then he “addresses him with kind words.” (125).
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1.Aenias tells Dido about the destruction of Troy.
2. The quote seems so loaded, because it starts with the fact that Troy was unable to be defeated by the Greek, how long it took, then to minerva's instruction about the horse, and how it was made. All that, in to one sentence, just seems loaded. Its tone seems like morgan freeman explaining whats going on.
3. Tenedos is an island at Aegean sea of Turkey, located close to Troy also known as the "peaceful sea from Tenedos.
4. Sinon was the prisoner who talked to priam about what happned. As the horse was built, storm clouds rumbled throughout the sky. So Apollo decided to appease the winds with the blood of a maidens sacrifice, because "The soldiers could not interpret the omen"(125). So sinon gets chosed, but he rans away, hiding, hoping that greeks would sail away.
5.Because "The clever Trojan told them that they first would have to remove from Troy the statue of mierva"(125), Minerva felt insulted
6. To make Trojans think that the greeks have left, the greeks left, with the horse at the shore, with the "group of armed warriors, chosen for their courage and skill" inside.
7. When Lacoon threw a spear in to the horse, it "angers Minerva"(126), which was a sin
8. Although, cassandra warned that Troy will fall, no one believes, and Troy was no standing there.
9. I'd say that Greeks have won because i dont see why not. I never heard any rules such as no suprise attacks. And i think its honorable, because it was a brilliant idea
10. I think Priam was depicted when The "Trojan shepards draw our attention toward a young man they are dragging before Priam"(124) Because of the "before" Priam may not seem depicted as much as the "young man", but seems depicted after the "young man"
1) In Chapter 2, Aeneas generally explains to Dido about the events that happened in the Trojan war, and about the Greeks’ tactics of the Trojan Horse and how it had lead to the fall of Troy.
ReplyDelete2) The following quote is so loaded because it explains a lot of details within one sentence, and also states unnecessary information about building it out of fir tree, etc. It seems as the author rushes the events and loads it into one sentence, when could be explained better in a set of sentences. The tone represents a positive image of the Greeks, determined to build a horse to be victorious.
3) Tenedos is an island located near Troy where the Greeks had hid their fleets. Tenedos is located in modern day Turkey.
4) Sinon tells the Trojans his story of him being chosen to sacrifice and decoy for the Trojan Horse, but instead Sinon escapes from the barracks, and decides to wait until the Greeks had left. Thus, Sinon gets left behind from the other Greek warriors and becomes a prisoner to give help to Troy.
5) Minerva was insulted by having her statue removed from Troy, commanded by the Trojan prophet captive. Ulysses and Diomedes had stolen the statue of Minerva from its shrine, and “defiled” it with their “bloody hands” (125). Consequently, Minerva had disliked the Greeks and felt insulted and disrespected by the Greeks.
6) The Greeks allegedly sailed for Mycenae so that the Trojans will think that they are safe, but the Greeks’ tactics were to deceive them when the bring in the horse that will demolish Troy.
7) Laocoon’s sin was when he “hurled” the spear to the horse (126). Laocoon had sinned and his two sons were killed by Minerva’s serpents in punishment of his wrongful behavior.
8) Cassandra reveals and predicts that Troy is coming to a downfall, however Apollo’s gives Cassandra an advantage of predicting the future, and an disadvantage of no one believing in her predictions. Therefore, Cassandra believes and tells her predictions but the Trojans do not agree and are not aware of their danger.
9) I would have to say that the Greeks had won successful victory against the Trojans but they didn’t gain victory over an honorable battle. The Greeks had used a cheap way of winning the battle, by deceiving the Trojans and winning by a sneak attack. If the Greeks and the Trojans fought in a huge battlefield of bloodbath with millions of warriors, and had gained victory over the Trojans, I would say that the Greeks had won an honorable victory.
10) King Priam is depicted as a compassionate king in this section. He shows pity for Sinon, does not quarrel over situations, and settles things by his understandings. When Sinon reveals the story of the Greeks, King Priam of Troy considers Sinon as “one of us”, showing trust and loyalty to Sinon.
1) In chapter 2, Aeneas is telling Queen Dido of Troy. He tells her the list of events leading to the creation of the trojan horse and how that would eventually destroy Troy.
ReplyDelete2) The quote sounds loaded because it is foretelling the future. The Greeks listened to the advice of a goddess and build a Trojan horse that would eventually lead to the destruction of Troy.
3) Today Tenedos is part of Turkey and in the northern Aegean Sea. It was originally the place where the Greeks hid their boats in order to mislead the Trojans that the war was over.
4) Sinon is the Greek prisoner who was a hostage of the Trojans. He was forced to tell about the Greeks but all he did was complain.
5) Because the Greeks "stole the statue" (125) of the Goddess Minerva she felt insulted by them.
6) They were trying to make the trojans think that they left. The real reason was so that they could bring the horse that will destroy Troy. They had a plan although they looked like they were leaving for Mycenae.
7) When the horse was thrown a spear inside it "angered Minerva" (126) because what Lacoon did was a sin that he should not committed.
8) Apollo's angry gift to her was giving her the power to predict the future. No one believed her when she said that Troy was going to fall.
9) I think that the Gods are controlling them like pawns and not the mortals that are actually fighting. The gods are moving the chess pieces around. Even if the mortals try hard because thier future is already decided for them they do not have a choice of their own. This was not an honorable victory. But that is what war is about. War is never fair .
10) King Priam accepts things easily and falls for people's lies and story's easily. He believed in the story that Sinon tells the Trojans and tells him that he could be "one of us" (125)
1.In the context of Chapter two, Aneas was describing what happened in Troy to the queen Dido of Carthage. He tells about the Trojan horse and the unfortunate events which led to the fall of Troy.
ReplyDelete2. This quote is loaded because it all started how Troy was unable to "defeat" by the Greeks. The following quote has lots of significance in one sentence that the author could of breaked it down to a few set of sentences instead of rushing it
all to one. The tone of the quote represents a positive image of the Greeks, of them building a horse to win their victory.
3. Tenodus located in the island near Troy which today is replaced by Turkey. They are knows as the "peaceful sea from Tenedos"
4. Sinon was a Greek prisoner in the Trojan war. He went to the Greeks to trick them by telling a lie that he was going to get killed from the Greeks. Telling them that he had escaped, he told the Trojans how he was left behind and that he wanted to go on their side.
5. The Greeks insulted Minerva by taking her statue and forming it into a horse. "And once they brought the statue's eyes "Flashed with flames" (125).
6. The Greeks allegedly sale for Myceane to make the Trojans think they're safe when really, they're in great danger. the Greeks left a wooden horse behind which was a sacrifice, so that the warriors were inside the horse's belly to attack.
7. The Laccoon was contributed by the sins, it is shown when they throw the spear into the Trojan horse and "angers Minervia" (126).
8. No one believes Cassandra when she tells that the doom will fall upon Troy. Apoolo's gift also made no one believe her prophecies. Sadly, the Troys fall as it was told.
9. From my perspective, this was not an honorable victory.
The gods had helped them in many ways such as killing or causing death to certain people or giving them their own ideas which ended up being very successful.
It wasn't their own idea which I thought wasn't fair.
10. A depiction of the king Priam is that he is really understanding, but gullible at the same time.
Since he cares about people too much, it affected the fall of the Trojan War.
1) Queen Dido of Carthage asks Aeneas to recount the story of the destruction of Troy. Aeneas gives an account on what had lead to the creation of the Trojan horse and how the Trojans were tricked into believing it was a gift for religious purposes.
ReplyDelete2) Sinon’s choice of words gives hopeful insight for the Greeks to have finally found a brilliant way to destroy Troy. This quote is loaded because he seems overly confident that this time the outcome will be favorable for the Greeks.
3) The Greeks had concealed their ships on Tenedos, an island near Troy to trick the Trojans into thinking they had retreated. Today it is an island that is part of Turkey.
4) Sinon is a Greek warrior who flees from the Greek camps from fear of being sacrificed. Apollo had interpreted an omen for the Greeks, stating that blood from a warrior was needed to make possible for the Greeks to sail back home. Sinon had been chosen for the one to be sacrificed, but fortunately he flees from his deathly fate and hides waiting for the Greeks to depart. After the Greeks leave, stumbling upon Trojan grounds he claims to be no longer a part of the Greeks and offers to help the Trojans.
5) Minerva was insulted by the Greeks as a result of them stealing her “statue from its shrine, defiling it with their bloody hands” (125). The Greeks had been able to count on Minerva for a helping hand in battle, but the Greeks violated their bond by disrespecting her.
6) The Greeks allegedly sail for Mycene to mislead the Trojans into thinking their enemy has retreated. But in reality the Greeks are hiding their ships on the island of Tenedos, waiting for the Trojans to accept the hollow horse, “pretending that it is a religious offering”(123).
7) Suspicious, Laocoon “hurls his great spear with might force”(124) into the side of the Trojan horse. This sparks the anger of Minerva, resulting in Laocoon’s death by the two serpents sent for the omen.
8) Apollo had given Cassandra an “angry” gift of the ability to tell the future but not have anybody believe her. Since it was the will of Apollo and it was guaranteed that Cassandra’s prediction would never be believed, nothing could be done to save Troy from destruction.
9) In my opinion the Greeks had both smart strategies and the ability to construct not only the hollow horse but clever lies. However, the Greeks had the help of the gods to create omens to scare the Trojans. They also had a whole army of armed men attacking the sleeping Trojans, never giving them enough time to prepare for battle. Therefore, the victory of the Greeks leans towards being barbaric rather than honorable.
10) Since Priam was his king, Aeneas depicts Priam as a man of great kindness and apprehension. Sympathetic Priam trusts the prisoner's story completely, liberating him and "adressing him with kind words"(125).
1.In chapter 2, Aeneas tells queen Dido of Carthage the story of the fall of Troy and how it happened.
ReplyDelete2.Its so loaded because it seems that the Greeks finally found a way to defeat Troy with the help of the Goddess Minerva/Athena.
3.Tenedos is a island located right outside of Troy. The Greeks retreated on to the shores of this island.
4.Sinon is the Greek prisoner. Who left the Greek camps from fear of getting sacrificed. He told the omen`s about the Trojan horse and convinced Priam that he was on there side and wanted to help the Trojans.
5.Minerva was insulted because the Greeks stole the statue of her from her temple in order to have a good omen to take over Troy. " Greeks captured your prophet"(125).
6.The Greeks allegedly depart to Mycenae in order for the Trojans to think there gone.But really there waiting for the Trojans to bring in the horse inside of there city."While we sleep the Greek ships leave the island of Tendos"to attack the quiet sleeping city.
7.Laocoon stabs a spear "with mighty force into the curved side of the horse"(124). Later on he gets killed by two serpents.
8.Cassandra has a gift of seeing the future. She knows that Troy is going to fall but, no one believes her because of Apollo`s curse.
9.I think they were not honorable for there cunning plan. I think it is dishonorable of the Greeks to lie and sack the the city from the inside while the city is asleep.
10.Priam is a understanding, nice king that he believes the story of Sinon. "Priam commands that his bonds be removed"(125).
1) The context of Chapter 2 is the story of how Troy fell. The story was told by Aeneas in Queen Dido's palace and the story itself happened in Troy.
ReplyDelete2) The following quote was said in Aeneas' narrative, therefore its tone is somehow showing that the Greeks did not come up with the idea of building a horse itself. If a greek would tell the story, they would have just said that they came up with the idea instead of a god. Also, the quote is loaded as it introduces the reader to how it started.
3) Tenedos also known as Bozcaada is an island in Turkey in the northern part of the Aegean Sea in this modern day. In The Aeneid, it is an island located near Troy as the Greeks hid there.
4) Sinon is a prisoner that the Trojans found. In order to open the gates and unlocking a secret hatch that was on the horse he was purposely casted away by the Greeks to trick the Trojans into letting him stay in Troy. His story out of all had impacted the Trojans view on him, thus King Priam made him become one of his people.
5) Minerva was insulted as her statue from Troy's shrine was stolen by "Ulysses, the contriver of crime and the ungodly Diomedes … defiling it with their bloody hands" (125). As a result, the Greeks were no longer favoured by Minerva.
6) The Greeks allegedly sail for Mycenae to trick the Trojans into thinking that they had abandoned the war. However, they were hiding "upon the barren shores of Tenedos, an island near Troy" waiting for the Trojans to accept the horse and to signal Sinon to open the secret hatch on the horse (124).
7) Laocoon was believed to commit a sin as " he hurled a spear into the sacred body of the horse" since from Sinon's story, it was not wise to harm the Trojan horse that was made out of Minerva's statue (126).
8) Apollo's gift to Cassandra was to not be believed when she could foresee the future. There was no other way to prevent the demolition of Troy even when Cassandra revealed their fate before it was destroyed.
9) No, the Greeks did not win an honourable victory, because their ways of winning was deceiving and is not the way a war works. A war is when they fight man to man for a prize but not secretly hiding, tricking and destroying a place. Also, the fact that Sinon's plea was pitied by Trojans and was "one of" the Trojans (125).
10) King Priam is depicted as a thoughtful and understanding. The fact that he accepted the Sinon, the prisoner's plea and "addresses him with kind words" also shows his trait of forgiveness of the Greeks (125).
1. In chapter 2 Aeneas is explain to Queen Dido the happening’s that lead to the fall of troy.
ReplyDelete2. The quote is loaded for it aims to sum up the reasoning and the happenings that lead to the fall of Troy. The tone used is rigid and straightforward although the contents helps make the Greeks seem contemptible, so it gives an understanding of Aeneas’ view of the Greeks.
3. Tenedos is the island near Troy where the Greek forces concealed their boats to convince that they had left.
4. Sinon was a pretend-Greek prisoner who makes up a story to fool the Trojans to let him and the horse into the gates of Troy. He says that he escapes sacrifice from the Greeks, and got left behind when the Greek ships left. So when he finally gets into Troy he helps open the horse to release the Greek warriors.
5. Minerva was insulted for the Greeks a “stole a statue” of her from a “shrine” in Troy (125). The Trojan prophet tells the Greeks to do so, for it would win them the war.
6. The Greeks allegedly sail to Mycenae to make the Trojans think that the Greeks were gone. The Trojans thought “that the Greek forces are sailing to Mycenae” when in fact “their ships were hidden upon the barren shore of Tenedos, and island near Troy”(124).
7. The sin Laocoon commits is that “He hurled his spear into the sacred body of the horse and angered Minerva”(126).
8. Apollo gave Cassandra the ability to prophesize but along with that was Apollo’s angry gift of her prediction to not be believed.
9. The Greek did not win in a honorable fashion. Although tactically ingenious, it is not something one would be proud of doing. At a time of desperation they had no choice but to make use of cheaper tactics. To fool the opponent to breach their walls is indeed a cheap way of winning a war.
10. Priam is depicted as a kind and forgiving figure in Aeneas’ description. After Sinon tells his story he pities him “and commands that his bonds be removed” and tells him “From this time forth, you are one of us” (125).
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1. Basically chapter 2 takes place in Carthage and Aeneas had been asked to tell Queen Dido about his story of the Trojan War, more specifically about the creation of the Trojan horse and how Trojans had been fooled to believe that the Greeks had left the Trojan horse for religious means.
2. The quote is loaded because it just shows how powerful the Trojans were. The only solution the Greeks had was to follow an immortal's offering to winning the war. Which leads up to interference between mortals and immortals. The tone in my opinion is set to an arrogant voice which just states that the Greeks wouldn't have been able to win without the immortals' help.
3. Tenedos is an island near Troy. The Greeks hid here while the Trojans were deceived with the "religious offering" the Greeks had given.
4. Sinon is an unfortunate man of Greek birth, he was to be sacrificed for the cause of the Greeks to reach the shores of Troy. When he heard that he was the chosen one to be sacrificed he ran away and hid for the night until the Greeks left, which they did without even sacrificing Sinon. But as a consequence his whole life and family had been disgraced and probably as consequence of Sinon's running away, one of his family members would have had gotten killed.
5. the insult towards Minerva first started with the Trojan telling the Greeks that if they'd wanted to win the war "they first would have to remove from Troy the statue of Minerva" (125). Then by following the orders Ulysses stole the statue of Minerva from its shrine.
6. The Greeks sailed to Mycenae because their prophet "told them that they would not be able to take Troy unless they first returned to Argos and found new, favorable omens there" (125).
7. Laocoon's sin was committed when he "hurled his spear into the sacred body of the horse" (Trojan horse) (126). This angered Minerva so she sent two serpents to kill his two sons and himself included.
8. Cassandra tells the Trojans that Troy will fall, but Apollo's gift was for her prophecies to be ignored. In conclusion Troy fell because nobody could listen to Cassandra.
9. On the bottom line, the Greeks did not win an honorable fight, because they lead the Trojans to believe that they had sailed back. So when they attacked during the night while all of Troy was asleep, it was an assured win for the Greeks.
10. The king is depicted as an understanding king. Especially when he "commands that his bonds be removed" after he had ran away for the good cause of the Greeks.
1. Aeneas tells Dido about the trojan war and the destruction of troy
ReplyDelete2. It tells us that nothing happened for nine years so greek finally makes a move towards victory, which is a positive tone
3. Island near troyy, and thats where the greeks hid for a while.
4. Sinon became the prisoner for Troy because he had fled from the greeks. When they have finished making the Trojan horse, Apollo tells them they needed a warriors blood for sacrifice, and everyone "looks" at Sinon, and from terror, he runs and hides till greeks are gone.
5. The greeks were told they had to "remove the statue of Meirva" in order to complete the Horse (125)
6. The Greeks tricks the trojans by making them think Greek fled from battle, leaving the Trojan Horse but "inside the horses cavernous belly, the devious Greeks secretly hide" so they can perform a surprise attack (124).
7. Laocoon's sin was that he "hurled his spear into the sacred body of the horse” (126).
8. Apollo gifted Cassandra (also from goddess of yesterday) the power to see the future, but also cursed her so noone will believe her fortunetelling.
9. I would argue because one, they were all depended on gods, and second, they were using dirty tacttics in order to win the war. I know its troy's fault for being tricked, but if i was a warrior, i would feel more honored when fighting fair and square
10. He knows how to deal with people. In this case, Sinon as a poor slave boy, had no place to live. Priam, the wise old man spoke to him From this time forth, you are one of us", yes he did not mind having a Greek boy in the Trojan community (125).
omg i had to do this all over again because it erased when i clicked publish so maybe my responses are kinda messy
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1. In Chapter 2, it talks about Aeneas meeting Dido and telling her about the situation in Troy. He then also told her about what pushed the Greeks into creating the Trojan horse and destroying the city of troy.
ReplyDelete2. This quote is very loaded, because it talks about how the Greeks basically just cheated during the war. The chose the easiest way of sneaking into the city which was a cowardly move. Even wars have rules, and the Greeks decided not to follow them.
3.Tenedos is an island located near Troy. Greeks used to hide their ships on the shores of that island to trick Trojans into thinking that the war was over.
4. Sinon was a greek prisoner in Troy. He was forced to tell about the Greeks, so he told the Trojans that he was treated badly and Greeks' behavior in generous was horrible. However, he didn't betray his folks and helped with getting the warriors out of the Trojan horse.
5. Minerva was insulted because her statue was taken out from the shrine in Troy,"remove from Troy the statue of Minerva" (125) since that's where it belonged.
6. The Greeks allegedly sail for Mycenae to make the Trojans think that they're finally safe, when they're in a big danger. The Greeks leave the wooden horse on the shore to make the Trojans think that it's a gift, but actually the Greek warriors are hiding in the “horse’s cavernous belly” (124), so later in the night they can come out and attack Troy.
7. Lacoon's sin was that he angered Minerva by "hurled his spear into the sacred body of the horse" (126). So then Minerva tells her guards to kill him and his two sins due to his unacceptable behavior.
8. Apollo gives Cassandra an ability to see things that will happen and in one of her visions she saw the destroy of Troy, so of course she went off to tell people but nobody believed her. It was crucial for Troy, because as we learn they lost the war.
9. In my opinion the Greeks did NOT have an honorable victory, because they were cheaters and cowards who wanted the easy way of winning. They did have the strength, but what they mostly used was tricking the Trojans and not winning the war fairly.
10. Priam is represented as a very understandable king. Even after hearing about Sinon's "betrayal" he says that "From this time forth, you are one of us" (125). However, I think Priam is not a good king, since his kindness blurs his mind about the reality.